Dey didn't have much and couldn't make anymore and dem so old. The last one was named for Hubbard Ross; he was related to Chief John Ross and was some kin to Daniel Nave, my father's master. They was so many of us for dat little field we never did have to work hard. Some 70 years after "the War," during America's Great Depression, the Works Progress Administration assigned numerous people to interview former slaves and record their recollections of slavery. He would tell em plain before hand, "Now no trouble." Lord have mercy I'll say they was. My pappy run away one time, four or five years before I was born, mammy tell me, and at that time a whole lot of Cherokee slaves run off at once. Sometimes the sleep was too deep and somebody would be late, but the master never punish anybody, and I never see anybody whipped and only one slave sold. Jennie Thompson (Vann) (c.1767 - 1823) - Genealogy He didn't tell us children much about the War, except he said one time that he was in the Battle of Honey Springs in 1863 down near Elk Creek south of Fort Gibson. Mammy went to a mean old man named Pepper Goodman and he took her off down de river, and pretty soon Mistress tell me she died cause she can't stand de rough treatment. The father and several Vann brothers were fur traders who left South Carolina to live among the "Upper Towns" Cherokee of eastern Tennessee. Them Pins was after Master all de time for a while at de first of de War, and he was afraid to ride into Ft. Smith much. He would start at de crack of daylight and not git home till way after dark. In slavery time the Cherokee negroes do like anybody else when they is a death---jest listen to a chapter in the Bible and all cry. When crop was laid by de slaves jest work round at dis and dat and keep tol'able busy. In 1842, 35 slaves of Joseph Vann, Lewis Ross, and other wealthy Cherokees at Webbers Falls, fled in a futile attempt to escape to Mexico, but were quickly recaptured by a Cherokee possee. Please enable JavaScript in your browser's settings to use this part of Geni. The low class work in the fields. James Vann (abt.1766-1809) | WikiTree FREE Family Tree The beautiful brick house was surrounded by kitchens, slave quarters and mills, with apple and peach orchards covering the adjacent hills. My husband didn't give me nothing. When the Vanns were forced from their Spring Place home in 1834, they took many slaves with them when they fled to safety in Tennessee. Next came the carpenters, yard men, blacksmiths, race-horse men, steamboat men and like that. We never had no church in slavery, and no schooling, and you had better not be caught wid a book in your hand even, so I never did go to church hardly any. 61 (Spring, 1983). Although he was born after slavery had ended, Nave's remembrances of what his father had told him about slavery days include some interesting details. Some of the Masters family was always going down to the river and back, and every time they come in I have to fix something to eat. Brother of Ca-lieu-cah Mary Vann Chief James Clement Vann Birth 11 Feb 1765 - Spring Place, Murray, Georgia, United States Death 21 Feb 1809 - Shot at Buffington Tavern, GA, USA Mother WahLi Wa-Wli aka Polly Otterlifter Mary Christiana Otterlifter Wolf Clan Father John Joseph 'Indian Trader' Cherokee Vann Quick access Family tree New search Chief James Clement Vann family tree I had me a good blaze-faced horse for dat. In 1837 ptior to the main Cherokee Removal, he transported a few hundred Cherokee men, women, children, slaves and horses aboard a flotilla of flat boats to Webber's Falls on the Arkansas River in Indian Territory. Malone, Henry Thompson, Cherokees of the Old South: A People in Transition, University of Georgia Press, (1956), ISBN 0670034207. Everything was fine, Lord have mercy on me, yes. Alexander Thompson Ruth Phillips and Elmira McLain and Elmira McLain. on the Ohio River. Actually, the Assistant Principal Chief was Joseph "Tenulte" Vann, son of Avery Vann and probably a cousin of "Rich Joe" Vann. They get something they need too. He had run off after he was sold and joined de North army and discharged at Fort Scoot in Kansas, and he said lots of freedmen was living close to each other up by Coffeyville in the Coo-ee-scoo-wee District. They got on the horses behind the men and went off. When Mammy went old Mistress took me to de Big House to help her and she was kind to me like I was part of her own family. Hams cakes, pies, dresses, beads, everything. We had bonnets that had long silk tassels for ties. Den old Master get three wagons and ox teams and take us all way down on Red River in de Choctaw Nation. Joseph died about 1780. Do you know what I am going to do? After the war I married Paul Alexander, but I never took his name. In 1840 the town of Harrison was developed on an adjoining property, and the county seat of Hamilton County was moved south to the Tennessee River to this location. Run it to the bank!" They'd clap their hands and holler. We was at dat place two years and made two little crops. Master Thompson brought us from Texas when I was too little to remember about it, and I din't know how long it was before we was all sold to John Harnage, "Marse John" was his pet name and he liked to be called that-a-way. Family Tree Profile Timeline John B. Chief Cornstalk - Historical records and family trees - MyHeritage Pappy was the shoe-maker and he used wooden pegs of maple to fashion the shoes. Family tree. Pappys name was Kalet Vann, and mammys name was Sally. My mother Betsy Vann, worked in the big house for the missus. People just go and help themselves, till they couldn't eat no mo! When we wanted to go anywhere we always got a horse, we never walked. He passed away on 21 Feb 1809 in Shot at Buffington Tavern, GA, USA. Brown sugar, molasses, flour, corn-meal, dried beans, peas, fruits butter lard, was all kept in big wooden hogsheads; look something like a tub. Seneca Chism was my father. She won me lots of money, Black Hock did, and I kept it in the Savings Bank in Tahlequah. sse Vann, James Clement Jr. Vann, Mary Vann, Delila Copeland (born Vann), John Vann, John Vann, Joseph Vann, John Vann, Mary Vann, Robert James (Ti-ka-lo-hi) (James Wahli Vann Etc. Christmas lasted a whole month. People all a visitin'. There was seats all around for folks to watch them dance. Chief James Clement Vann family tree Parents John Joseph 'Indian Trader' Cherokee Vann 1735 - 1815 Wahli Wa-wli Aka Polly Otterlifter Mary Christiana Otterlifter Wolf Clan 1751 - 1815 Spouse (s) It was "Don't Call the Roll, Jesus Because I'm Coming Home." Lord yes, su-er. Chief Cheakoneska Otterlifter John Trader Vann - Ancestry A few years of her life were also quite possibly spent among Seminoles during part of that time, although her memory of the death of Joseph "Rich Joe" Vann is clearly a part of Cherokee history. Two year old when my mamma died so I remember nothing of her, and most of my sisters and brothers dead too. Every dollar she make on the track, I give it to Lucy." He went clean to Louisville, Kentucky, and back. Dey was all wid the south, but dey was a lot of dem Pin Indians all up on de Illinois River and dey was wid de North and dey taken it out on de slave owners a lot before de War and during it too. The participants in this near slave revolt received physical punishments, but none were killed. We didn't suffer, we had plenty to eat. The grandson reported that the Vann Family lived in that house until "the War," when some 3,000 federal troops descended upon Webbers Falls. We had meat, bread, rice, potatoes and plenty of fish and chicken. Joseph David Vann in MyHeritage family trees (Chamblin Web Site) view all 15 Immediate Family Lamilla Dawn Vann wife Martha Garner daughter Permelia (Vann) Barfield Sansom daughter Millie Ann (Vann) Hodges daughter David Vann son Paul David Vann son John Joseph Vann, "The Interpreter" father Elizabeth Betsy Vann mother Mary Pruitt sister Coming out of the army for the last time, Pappa took all the family and moved to Fort Scott, Kansas, but I guess he feel more at home wid the Indians for pretty soon we all move back, this time to a farm near Fort Gibson. When he get home he call my uncle and ask about what we done all day and tell him what we better do de next day. Margaret Fields, Minerva Biggs* and Elizabeth Griffin. But we couldnt learn to read or have a book, and the Cherokee folks was afraid to tell us about the letters and figgers because they have a law you go to jail and a big fine if you show a slave about the letters. When I left Mrs. McGee's I worked about three years for Mr. Sterling Scott and Mr. Roddy Reese. After supper the colored folks would get together and talk, and sing, and dance. Birth 1735 - Cherokee, Chowan, North Carolina, United States. Missus Jenni lived in a big house in Webbers Falls. (13) In order to determine when COLBERT began living with the Chickasaws, it was necessary to seek corroborating evidence to verify DONNE's statement. It had no windows, but it had a wood floor that was kept clean with plenty of brushings, and a fireplace where mammy'd cook the turnip greens and peas and corn--I still likes the cornbread with fingerprints baked on it like in the old days when it was cooked on a skillet over the hot wood ashes. There was a house yonder where was dry clothes, blankets, everything. They spun the cottons and wool, weaved it and made cloth. Old Mistress had inherited some property from her pappy and dey had de slave money and when dey turned everything into good money after de War dat stuff only come to about six thousand dollars in good money, she told me. She holler, "Easter, you go right now and make dat big buck of a boy some britches!". Two pounds of hog meat sold for a nickel. Just 'bout two weeks before the coming of Christmas Day in 1853, I was born on a plantation somewheres eight miles east of Bellview, Rusk County, Texas. The women dressed in white, if they had a white dress to wear. My aunt done de carding and spinning and my mammy done de weaving and cutting and sewing , and my pappy could make cowhide shoes wid wooden pegs. Betty Robertson's father worked aboard Joseph Vann's steamboat, Lucy Walker. He went to the war for three years wid the Union soldiers. Doublehead's last wife was Nancy Drumgoole. Mammy got a wagon and we traveled around a few days and go to Fort Gibson. The master had a bell to ring every morning at four o'clock for the folks to turn out. He was married, but that din't make no difference he courted her anyhow. He sold one of my brothers, and one sister because they kept running off. Everybody had a good time on old Jim Vann's plantation. Mammy had the wagon and two oxen and we worked a good size patch there until she died, and then I git married to Cal Robertson to have somebody to take care of me. They had a big big plantation down by the river and they was rich. He tell us for we start, what we must say and what to do. Now I'se just old forgotten woman. Master Joe was sure a good provider, and we always had plenty of corn pone, sow belly and greens, sweet potatoes, cowpeas and cane molasses. My father was born in Tahlequah just about where the colored church stands on Depot Hill. How did they hear about it at home? This CHEROKEE index was pre-built so it loads quickly. They'd bring whole wagon loads of hams, chickens and cake and pie. He courted a girl named Sally. Historian Gilbert C. DIN wrote; "James Logan COLBERT, a Scotsman and trader, began residence among the Chickasaw before 1740, when he was about the age of twenty.". Sometimes us children would try to follow her, but she'd turn us around pretty quick and chase us back with: "Go on back to the house or the wolves get you.". Sometimes we got to ride on one, cause we belonged to Old Jim Vann. Wife belong to de church and all de children too, and I think all should look after saving their souls so as to drive de nail in, and den go about de earth spreading kindness and hoeing de row clean so as to clinch dat nail and make dem safe for Glory.