In any case, you will want to experiment with The Horns alone have been selling up around $1300 a pair on E-Bay, without the $500 Custom Paint Job these have. I had an Altec 19 for myself much years ago , I compared these pair of Altecs with a K-horn . Discussion in 'Speakers' started by sansuisammy, Feb 19, 2010. Last edited: Apr 26, 2022 I personally don't care for the Altec horns. They just sound "off" and I dunno how else to describe it. I would much sooner go with an EV or JBL, b My concern is the motorboad for my La Sclala's, I think I will need a new mount for my K77 outside the HF section. Some of you talk about the 19s as tho they were the A7 voice of the theaters. Xovers: The K-horn did this very well considering they had 3 drivers to contend with. I miss them sometimes, but the La Scalas, while not excavating the depths of low end response, still do a very satisfactory job. each and is known to produce a sound pressure level of 105 dB with just 1 watt. I like hustling up nice horns at a good price and I'm really less concerned about the specific brand. A7s or Model 19's, both sound mushy compared to Khorns. ', Sorry for that , but I cant agree . The driver on my 511B horn is the Altec 808-8a CD. My concern is the motorboad for my La Sclala's, I think I will need a new mount for my K77 outside the HF section.". First off, and IMO very importantly, the 19s have much better extended HF responseinfact, the Khorns don't go much over 17k. The K77 won't fit if you mount the 511 on the motorboard of the LaScala. For the record, I bought an original set of Altec A7-500s in 1968, and they are still my main speakers - modified, of course. wouldn't suggest that any BRAND of speaker is necessarily better, but would say that the speakers all are different. Quote. Your purchases also help protect forests, including trees traditionally used to make instruments. 811 horns have a low frequency cut-off of 800Hz and won't go much below that. Hey! Upload or insert images from URL. 2.8k. Altec Horn System Transform your Klipschorns Complete Midrange Swap for Klipschorn. Coytee, will you EVER stop pushing Jubilees? The K-horns play so deep, down to 20 cycles, that you don't need a sub. The 19s go beyond 20k with the original diapgragms in them. Modern speakers vs Vintage speakers | What's Best Audio and Its all about compromise because nothing does it all well. Looks like maybe 1940's vintage 2A3 tubes, too. Item Information. I have consistently found that I 'like" whatever is new in my listening room. By reputation alone, I would certainly consider a pair of Klipsch Jubilie. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Sorry for that , but I cant agree . I had an Altec 19 for myself much years ago , I compared these pair of Altecs with a K-horn . If your ears aren't tuned to it, that's one thing, but this isn't some mystical idea that I'm suggesting. Altec Voice of the Theatre on thevintageknob.org Furthermore, most of the graphs I've seen done on Khorns don't have extended highs or the flattest frequency response. excellent in a small room and in a big room, word of mouth and Yes, the A7s didn't have a great low frequency response, and their high end UPDATE: The forums, gallery and advanced search upgrades have been purchased. You can use them anywhere, as they are no longer corner horns. It is funnyI have read this post before and I just spotted a pair of 19s in a local pawn shop todayI did not give it much though and then lau I built him a set of MTM's and delivered them for Christmas. It has much more bass than the Heresy, is more Copyright 2022 Klipsch Group, Inc. You can post now and register later. Anyway, I'm intrigued about what you said regarding changing/upgrading the mid squawker in the Khorn. (You must log in or sign up to reply here. Forum Policies, Rules, and Terms of Service. They all sound good and they're all different. They are HUGE and so is their sound. In picking out a speaker, I would rank extended listening as much more important than spec sheets, or even independent testing. exactly. Thats why the Altec / Klipsch combo works best bluesboy IMO the Altec Model 19 was the best turnkey speaker ever made. I think Klipsch made basically three speakers that were fully horn loaded and finished like furniture for use in home audio systems (as opposed to sound reinforcement applications.) That is indeed a beautiful 2a3 amp, did you build it Arash? Had he not made his comment about buying a new pair of Khorns, I would have not said anything. ). In a graph some of us have seen, they appear to be down 5dB at about 34 Hz, with a narrow, anomalous little dip at 60 Hz in the Klipsch anechoic chamber, but the chamber only has sidewall support out to about 4 feet. for using as a mid-range horn 511 is better but in a two-way like M19 811 sounds better because the smaller horn pronounces higher frequency better than 511, use some bitumen as dampening material outside of 511 and it'll sound more open with no honkiness and ringing. i'd suggest taking a look at Dave's fastlane audio website. 4) Paul Klipsch ran curves of the Altec A7 v.s. both the La Scala and the Klipschorn in the '60s. They are reproduced somewhere on this forum. Set of 2 Two Vintage Altec Lansing A7 Speakers Wood Cabinets . "Are the Vintage altecs as desirable as the klipsch seems to be?" ..not around here they ain't! [] As any one who has spent very much time & experimentation in this hobby soon learns the significance of room & our personal hearing choice & cost is a major consideration. two way - Jubilee. Thank you, man! The network is fine, but like the guys are saying, the 811b is only good to a but below 800 Hz. Display as a link instead, Add to cart. The Aristocrat is a contemporary of the Klipsch "Rebel/Shorthorn". I am reluctant to make a change I cannot undue other than refinishing my La Scala cabinets in new veneer. Hey, I don't mind Coytee mentioning Jubs, but I spoke with a Klipsch technician and he said for my sized room 12' x 15' and 10' high (with the Khorns on the 15' wall) the Khorns would be the better fit sonic wise over the Jubilees. different takes on what might be a good approach, explore the posts by Sorry for that , but I cant agree . Vintage Beat: The Altec Lansing July 7, 2009 in Technical/Restorations. I say LaScala, or Klipschorn because you say 400 horn. There was a whole range of Voice of the Theatre loudspeakers -- the A5 and A7 are probably the most common. Altec A7 WebBuy Klipsch Heritage here: https://paducahhometheater.com/collections/klipsch-heritagePaducah Home Theater / PHT TV - Ep. Please check the fields highlighted in red. Best Offer: Altec Voice of the Theatre Thank you for your input, Daddy Dee, I'll go with the new Khorns. List price was $599; list price of the A7 was $299.40. Was that a tough job fittin' them in the Khorn??? Yes, the 511 takes up the entire top front of the LaScala. to my ears the tractrix mid horns have a more open sound. DM Quote CaptnBob a new pair of Khorns will sound fabulous. Artto and Cask, if you have not already done so. Your link has been automatically embedded. Yes, the A7s didn't have a great low frequency response, and their high end response was only as good as the khorns. It will! Klipsch vs Altec - Audiokarma Home Audio Stereo 5) The Altec A-7s sound much like the much bigger Altecs used with the magnetic stereo widescreen movies of the late '50s and the '60s, except that the bigger ones had more authority and more bass. Audiogon Discussion Forum he builds a couple of different size tractrix horns. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. The La Scala has the BAD K400 squawker horn from the Klipschorn and the Cornwall has the higher The power supply for the Gradient active crossover was not included, so I am awaiting a new one that should arrive next week. I've been building a small collection of Altec, JBL, Klipsch, and Dukane speaker drivers and complete speakers. wouldn't suggest that any BRAND of Your previous content has been restored. Watch this gear and we'll notify you if it becomes available again. WebA pair of Altec -- Lansing A7 "Voice of the Theatre" loudspeakers and their domestic counterpart, the Altec Corona, will visit our listening room. Which midrange horn images the best Materion Truextent makes replacement diaphragms, http://alteclansingunofficial.nlenet.net/publications/techletters/AN-11_EnclosurePlans.pdf. It won't interfere with the woofer at all. " I'm going to approach this from a FAST/WAW perspective with an Altec 511B metal horn providing the critical range of frequencies rather like a full range driver would in some of the popular FAST/WAS projects in the Full Range forum here. I would stick with full fledged horns. One nice thing about this dilemma is that if you buy used speakers of this quality at a reasonable price, you can live with them for a few months or years and get most or all of your money out of them when you sell them. "Are the Vintage altecs as desirable as the klipsch seems to be?". I have never been a fan of aluminum or titanium tweeters. Both companies make speakers lots of people like. I have a pair of corner horn speakers that I built myself. the altecs easliy go down to 30hz. While the Khorn spec sheet shows it going down to only 33Hz -- actually 34 or 35Hz on spec sheets of some vintages, and the Altec sheet shows 30 Hz, I ran Room EQ WIzard on my Khorns and they were about -3 dB at 30 Hz, and extend to about 22.5 Hz at - 10 dB. Altec Of couse, I am wasting my breath on a Klispch forum typing thishaha. It measures 53 high, 31 wide, and 28 deep. I know that the new 2004's are rated at having a 450Hz crossover at a 6db slope, but previously, the "accepted" value was 400Hz or a bit lower like 375Hz. both 811 and 511 sound far better than K-400. Just sent an email to my friend. It takes me about a month of really careful listening and comparison to really get over this novelty effect and come to an understanding of what each pair of speakers really sounds like. I have a friend who owns these very speakers and I would like to suggest something to him. If I can help any one with specific questions, PM or email me. Off the topic, I have just bought a pair of Gradient SW-63s, a pair of dipole subs specifically designed to accompany Quad ESL-63s. It should outperform IME the Klipsch version (s) to a degree in that its rear-loaded horn is more defined rather than a simple slot at the rear of the cabinet. What are the physical dimmensions for the horn. bookshelves or whatever to break up reflections. Altec Dr Morbius: It looks like, as of June 2, you still haven't bought anything. They have been in storage for the last 20 years, this pair vs Altec A7 Like a Klipschorn 20 great HF watts is all you will ever need. Well said Gary. Very objective reply. tc 811 is 800Hz, 511 is 500Hz, 311 is 300Hz. 3 way vs. 2 way When you post a question like yours on the Klipsch Forum, you will find many respondents that prefer Klipsch speakers. I would like to try a K-55/511b combo running them down to 400 Hz. Altec horn numbers give you a hint to the low frequency cut off of the horn. Today, the A7 is one of the most sought-after speakers for home audio in Japan, in part because real estate is so expensive in Japan that to be able to say you Paste as plain text instead, Hell I'd love to have a pair of each. Secondly, the altecs easliy go down to 30hz. Yes, the A7s didn't have a great low frequency response, and their high end response was only as good as the khorns. i have these .. i don't view them as overly bright but then You can post now and register later. glad to hear you are enjoying the Altecs. Clear editor. I still think the best driver for the Khorn is the later K55V or K55M. This is a win-win situation. heard them, though. Al, Did you ever plot an Altec 808 in a K-400? Well you'll see lots of guys around here modding their Klipsch speakers with various Altec compression drivers, horns and woofers but I've NEVER seen Altec guys modding their speakers with Klipsch parts. I replaced the stock Midrange Horn of the Khorn with a pair of 1005B Altec horns with 288-16K drivers. It may be worth noting that in their newest hi-end product, Klipsch uses direct radiator bass. Posted February 9, 2005. 811 sounds just like 511 but 511 has a higher cutt-off frequency. The Beyma CP-25 is reputed to be a hands-down improvement over the stock EV T-35 tweeter. Truth be told I've never listened to a pair of Khorns but I do have the Cornscalas and am blown away by their openness and clarity so, along with my HH Scott amp and Empire turntable connected to the new Khorns.well let's say I'll be a very happy man - and the wife too as she loves the sound of the Cornscallas as well as how the Khorns are set into the corners of the room. The JBL driver has a continuous roll off. It was to prove that the 511b would go below 500 Hz down to 400. Full fledged folded horns of Klipsch don't have the step down in the curve as the Altecs do inw their straight axis short horn/bass reflex combo, where the rear radiation of the cone attempts to put out as much sound as the front horn, which, of course, it can't. Discussion in 'Speakers' started by Coolhandjjl, Jun 4, 2010. ALTEC 604-HPLN (High Power Less Network) had 421 8 woofer LF + 16 HF diaphragm, so the. BUT, the model 19s are great full range speakers and technically they extend lower and higher than the khorn. With that said I think there are much better Altec Midrange Horns and Drivers than are in the Stock Khorn. Therefore, of course I agree. Full fledged folded horns of Klipsch don't have the step down in the curve as the Altecs do inw their straight axis short horn/bass reflex co It's fine when when within the scope of purchase, but when brought up all the time, and recommended for consideration when thousands over budget, multiple friends have indicated in passing that excessive Klipsch shilling is almost as bad as the Bose bashing. would love to hear it. Clear editor. Not my intent at all. They just disappear into the corners! It is not the only hammer in the toolbox. UPDATE: The forums, gallery and advanced search upgrades have been purchased. Which is why, I have a preference for running multiple systems at the same time, When I am running my A7's with tube amplification, I am also running two other systems with conventional designed tower speakers, powered by solid state amps. It's as if the 511 was made for it! Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by murphythecat, Oct 17, 2016. Changing either one is vertually impossible without a total redesign! You cannot paste images directly. In other words, they are never going to sound like A7's or K-horns. i can perfectly visualize what you are describing thank you for taking the time to help me understand something that maybe fundiment If you were more specific about what Klipsches you are thinking about, you would get more informed answers. The Khorn would be pushing it to get to 450Hz on the upper crossover point, IMO. I just got hold (next week) of some ALK B X-overs. The pair of tractrix horns, built by forum friend, just fit inside the top hat. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. On 1/20/2005 8:40:10 AM Al Klappenberger wrote: Guys, The only comparison plots I did was of the K55 on an Altec 511b horn versus on a In listening to the A7 in one corner, and the Khorn in the other, I felt the Khorn was warmer and brassier, while the A7 was colder. Waiting on Xenforo to set a date for installing the upgrades. Klipsch Klipschorn AK6 loudspeaker Page You're in denial. I suggest a new Altec 902 from Great Plans Audio. Altec Lansings Voice of the Theatre Speakers - audioXpress actually better than many expensive gears I heard. Khorns have surprisingly high WAF. The owner had used them with 311-90 horns and some 288's. Yes, the A7s didn't have a great low frequency response, and their high end response Owned and used a pair of 1974 Cornwalls for a decade. LaScala AL5 vs Klipschorn AK6 - The big ones Powered by Invision Community, Now that is the toppest of notches you are ever gonna get [Y]. Affiliate programs and Display as a link instead,
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